unemployibility

[hrss143]

I am 60% with va math, but am 30% depression, 20% back, and 30% right knee. I take 120 mgs of moriphine each day, and 30mgs of temazapam to sleep each night. I have tried civil service and have been disqualified medically when I went in for interviews, and just quit a state veterans rep job after less than 30 days. This is the only time I have worked since 2002. I started voc rehab in 2003 but have switched to half time because of the meds I take, and am thinking about quiting school all together because I dont think I can work. I also draw social secueity disability. I am addicted to meds perscribed by the va, and because of this and the combination of my other disabilities I want to try for unemployibility. do I have a chance?

[TinCanMan]

At the very least, you require a medical professional to state you are unemployable, do you have that? Next, you need to fit the criteria for IU which is 70% with one condition at 40% .OR. a single condition at 60%. So to answer your question, almost assuredly not. The local decision maker could submit your claim to the Director of the C&P service for extra scheduler consideration but a friend tells me that has not happened once in the 30 years he's seen. The only other option is to seek an increased evaluation first.

If I were you I'd seek help for my condition and most assuredly get help for the addiction. The VA takes addiction very seriously.

[1968 Tet Vet]

My opinion: go ahead, now, and file for IU. Do NOT wait. You have nothing to loose and EVERYTHING to gain... to include your effective date being established. If you want some pointers on how, send me a personal message.

The VA form is attached for downloading.

Originally Posted by hrss143

I am 60% with va math, but am 30% depression, 20% back, and 30% right knee. I take 120 mgs of moriphine each day, and 30mgs of temazapam to sleep each night. I have tried civil service and have been disqualified medically when I went in for interviews, and just quit a state veterans rep job after less than 30 days. This is the only time I have worked since 2002. I started voc rehab in 2003 but have switched to half time because of the meds I take, and am thinking about quiting school all together because I dont think I can work. I also draw social secueity disability. I am addicted to meds perscribed by the va, and because of this and the combination of my other disabilities I want to try for unemployibility. do I have a chance?

[TinCanMan]

Why would you advise someone to file a claim when it is clear they aren't qualified. Didn't you just bitch about the VA taking soooo... long. Is it any wonder why.

[1968 Tet Vet]

You do NOT understand, do you. Too bad.... but, I hope Vets can see thru it, though.... and realize the truth.

Originally Posted by TinCanMan

Why would you advise someone to file a claim when it is clear they aren't qualified. Didn't you just bitch about the VA taking soooo... long. Is it any wonder why.

[TinCanMan]

someone else told you; "I find hardly any of your posts helpful." Did they not understand either?

[Guarango]

Tet Vet.I would listen to what Tin Can Man says. He is extremely knowledgeable in VA matters as well as others. He has help me personally a great deal. Perhaps hrss 143 should re-apply for a reexam of his conditions with added medical evidence. Making an application which is Void Ab Initio is a waste of his as well as the VA. You don't get to be a Seniour Member here unless you are well versed. I would rather listen to the Seniour Members here of which there are many. They are a buch of most exelent Brothers. They compelled to give the help they do. They do so out of loyalty and love for their fellow vets. Don't ever forget that as long as you are here with us. A little respect goes a long way. You know what they say, "You cathch more flies with honney than you do with sh*t.

[1968 Tet Vet]

Absolutely (to yours, below). This Vet should go ahead and file, immediately. Then, work on additional evidence to secure a win. HOW: with an outside Independant Medical Opinion from a MD Expert in his disability. Thats it.

Originally Posted by Guarango

Perhaps hrss 143 should re-apply for a reexam of his conditions with added medical evidence.

[1968 Tet Vet]

Originally Posted by 1968 Tet Vet

Absolutely (to yours, below). This Vet should go ahead and file, immediately. Then, work on additional evidence to secure a win. HOW: with an outside Independant Medical Opinion from a MD Expert in his disability. Thats it.

It is VERY important to establish the EED date. Thats the effective date if the claim is granted. To let it go without filing is like throwing money out the window if the IU claim is approved at a later date.... GONE, forever.... never to be retrieved.

BEWARE.

[TinCanMan]

"I find hardly any of your posts helpful."

Is that a lie too?????

[1968 Tet Vet]

YES.... simply, not true. Do you think that I want hrss143 to do the WRONG thing? Really? Why would I want him to do the wrong thing?

He needs to file, NOW. He needs to establish his EED, now.... not later. Later never comes.

Tincan.... get real. With a comment like yours below shows that you REALLY are not interested in helping other vets... just to protect your turf.... you're like a Troll on this webbboard and that is one reason why it has so poor participation. This forum has very low participation. One reason for the low participation is the ever presence of..... TinCanMan..... a true negative influence on this forum. Too bad.

Originally Posted by TinCanMan

"I find hardly any of your posts helpful."

Is that a lie too?????

[TinCanMan]

You can't run from your past. You've been bounced from two boards already and one webmaster has already said: "I find hardly any of your posts helpful."

I suppose TBird is a liar too.

[Wolf]

I can vouch for TinCanMan. He is a very reliable source for VA benefits information. I have yet to see him give anybody advice that was incorrect. No, he doesn't walk on water but if you need information about what to do or where to go with your claim he is the "man"...

[Guarango]

I don't know about that Wolf. I went fishing the other day and saw a man standing in the middle of the lake with his poole and his trusty rusty can of nightcrawlers. He was just standing there concentrating on bites. I went an got my binoculars cause it looked very odd. I peeped at this person standing on the water in the middle of the lake and it turned out to be Tin Can Man. He had a VA manual in his back pocket, (just in case the fish were not biting). I waved at him and he waved back and carried on fishing. Darnest ting I ever saw.

[TinCanMan]

Frank:

Would you please come and tell my wife that? :-)

[1968 Tet Vet]

Just my opinion, but this subject is widely opinunated... even with VSOs, etc.

Concerning IU. THIS IS IMPORTANT. We all can talk about eligibility of IU, but that's not whats important. You don't have to "qualify" to apply for IU. If you are close, like 60% combined, or even less, the important part is to apply... then, immediately, work to get more evidence that shows that you are unable to work because of your disability. This does TWO things: not only do you build your IU case, but you are also building your disability case. They are 2 different, but related, things.

Many Vets are discouraged in going for IU by there VSO, etc. Thats truly unfortunate. For most Vets, you must "BUILD" your IU case... then, it won't be a problem to get.

HOW TO BUILD IT? See a private doctor and ask him to write a statement as to your employability. Go to VA Voc Rehad, apply, and see if you can qualify for it? If they turn you down because of your disability, then there again, good strong evidence that you are, in fact, unemployable. Get other written statements as to your employability, from professional health care workers.

I am 60% with one rating at 50% and do not qualify for IU.... however, I did apply in Jan 07. I am doing all of the above action and well on my way to an IU rating. I will get it, no doubt.

Good luck.... but, luck has nothing to do with it. Hard work and staying focused on your goal is the key.

Originally Posted by hrss143

I am 60% with va math, but am 30% depression, 20% back, and 30% right knee. I take 120 mgs of moriphine each day, and 30mgs of temazapam to sleep each night. I have tried civil service and have been disqualified medically when I went in for interviews, and just quit a state veterans rep job after less than 30 days. This is the only time I have worked since 2002. I started voc rehab in 2003 but have switched to half time because of the meds I take, and am thinking about quiting school all together because I dont think I can work. I also draw social secueity disability. I am addicted to meds perscribed by the va, and because of this and the combination of my other disabilities I want to try for unemployibility. do I have a chance?

[TinCanMan]

Most of the following quotes are by Administrators or Moderators. "Pop" is an owner operator as is TBird. both of them have terminated your account/s.

Are all of these people lying or do they have you pegged as someone who's sole purpose is to set up a strawman for the purposes of debate. Are all these folks prosecuting a personal attack against you? We know who you are and it appears you are a problem child.

You use a variety of usernames and shifting IP addresses. Among them are 1968Army, 1968 Army VV, RVNArmy, and 1968 Nam Vet.

I have a URL to each and every one of these direct quotes and I have a lot more. At the moment I'm too lazy to enumerate each and every one.

TBird said: "1968 Nam Vet I find hardly any of your posts helpful."

Witchdoctor said: "1968 Army VV -- I see you as a person that enjoys mass debating in public forums."

Herdgrunt said: "Army, you are trying very hard to rewrite the King's English"

Pop said: "I could be wrong here but in my opinion, 1968 Army is simply here to cause trouble. He doesnt ask stuff about claims to help him but to start a discussion. Then, once the discussion starts, he tries to use and says "gotcha".

To me, that is deceitful.

We are here to help other veterans that are filing a claim. This is not our job. This is not our life. This is something we do on the side as part of a way of giving something back.

Then we get someone about once every six months that selects an admin or mod and starts to go after them in a professional or personal way.

Although these exercises in talking about these "what ifs" are sometimes interesting, they are also an example of why the VA has to waste so much time. Can you imagine if 68 Army treats the VA this way. Every time he sends something in it causes a delay. Is this the VA's fault?"

Red1600 said: "Army:

You stated your position on this issue, then asked for comments. Five people gave you various reasons for the requirement.

Now you come back and restate your position almost verbatim. What is the point of this exercise? Please tell us"

nmfxstc said: "You've convinced me, Army...they are out to get you and have a full task force assigned and dedicated to doing just that"

Pop also said: "Army,

I have the same question.

This is about 5 or 6 questions that you comment on and then ask a question.

Then you see the comments and then you comment on it again, sometimes exactly what you posted before or having another angle on it.

I guess I dont understand the exercise.

It almost seems like you are asking questions and you already know the answer to the question.

Is there something I am missing? Are we a part of a research project or being inspected by the VA or being looked into by you and some other organizations?

What we do if you are not aware is try and help veterans file a well grounded claim to the VARO the first time around so as to receive the proper rating based on their claim. We are all veterans and provide our opinions based on our experiences. Some people have experiences that are more in depth but we try to help each other.

We do so without playing games with each other or by deceiving others in what we do.

I hope that that is not what is happening here."

cranegod said: "1968 Army VV
The only thing that you provide is wasting bandwidth"

[1968 Tet Vet]

Here, below, is what Tomatoes said today on www.military.com, Disability Compensation forum:

I would like to thank RVN1968 and DAVE_M for their help.

Does that tell you anything about what TCM has been spouting, like above !?!

[TinCanMan]

Based on observation of your behavior on this and other veteran’s websites it appears your sole purpose here is to setup a strawman for the purpose of debate and to generate conflict. I won't engage you on that level for any reason.

Your understanding of veteran’s claims issues is appallingly abysmal. You don't know and won't listen to those that do. You appear to have totally mis-managed your own claim because you simply failed to understand the process.

The owner/operators of two veteran’s forums have deleted your accounts. In one case, they were forced to do this twice when you shifted nym's and IP addresses to deceive the operator.

Anyone following your advice will place his own claim at risk.

[1968 Tet Vet]

TCM: anyone following your claim advise.... will most likely not even file their just claim.... thats the kind of "expert" you are on VA claims..... and, my approach is completely different. I am pro-Vet, not pro-VA.... and, you are pro-VA. Thats the difference.

BEWARE of TCM's advise ! The truth is the truth.