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Old 05-13-2005, 01:51 AM
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By Tom Philpott
May 12, 2005


Commission Told Of Rise In Veterans Rated 'Unemployable'

A commission conducting the first major review of veterans' disability benefits in 50 years was warned at its inaugural meeting that perhaps too many veterans have been deemed "unemployable," which raises their compensation to the level of 100-percent disabled veterans.

Renee L. Szybala, director for operations of VA's Compensation and Pension Service, told the Veterans' Disability Benefits Commission May 9 that the number of vets designated "IU,"for Individual Unemployability, has doubled in the last six years.

Part of that growth is blamed on the VA's decision in 1999 to stop requiring IU veterans to complete a form each year verifying that they remain unemployed, said Stephen Simmons, Szybala's deputy.

"We re-instituting that,"he said, citing recent "findings" that dropping the form requirement was a bad idea. The 214,000 veterans designated IU now are simply sent annual reminders that their compensation level is based on a determination that they can't work.

Szybala noted other difficulties with IU.

"There's a question of whether people are giving [it] too easily,"she said, referring to VA claims adjudicators. "It's a safety valve and when you need to get cases off your desk quickly, if people meet the criteria, just give it to them,"she said, describing the potential for abuse.

Also, though IU is tied to an inability to work, the higher payments continue into old age when most Americans have stopped working anyway.

Commissioner Donald M. Cassiday, a retired Air Force colonel and bomber pilot, asked Szybala if a veteran age 90 could draw disability pay at the 100-percent level. In fact, she said, a veteran theoretically can apply for IU benefits at age 90, arguing that his disabilities make him unable to work.

In its first two-day meeting, the commission also took testimony from defense officials, congressional auditors, veterans' service groups and military associations. Group representatives defended current levels of payments. Some expressed concern over how the commission came to be.

House Republican leaders mandated the commission as a condition for relaxing the ban on concurrent receipt of military retirement and VA disability compensation. The 13-member panel to review of VA payments was a compromise position for Republicans after they angered vet groups with a plan to tighten disability payments of future veterans by recognizing only injuries or illnesses resulting from "performance of duty.''

Under current law, any permanent injury or illness is service-connected and compensable if traced to time in service. Szybala cited as an example an off-duty service member injured roller-skating with his girlfriend.

"Disability need not be caused by military service…and that's probably one of the things the commission will be grappling with,"she said.

Commission chairman, retired Lt. Gen. James T. Scott, former head of the Army Special Operations Command, said "paranoia"among some veterans over what the commission will recommend is unfounded.

Growth in the number of veterans rated unemployable drew a round of questions from commissioners, however. VA statistics show that about half of 460,000 veterans with disability ratings of 60 to 90 percent are now deemed unemployable and paid as if 100-percent disabled. Last year, the IU status added $4 billion to overall disability payments, Szybala said.

The designation brings a sharp boost in pay. A 60-percent disabled veteran with no dependents given IU status draws monthly compensation of $2299 instead of $839. The difference is $1660 or almost $20,000 a year. For a 90-percent veteran with a spouse and a child, an IU rating means $2523 a month instead of $1581, or an added $11,300 annually.

Veterans can be considered for IU if they have one disability of at least 60 percent or two disabilities with a combined rating of at least 70 percent. One of every four veterans with a 60-percent disability is now IU and paid at the 100-percent level. Likewise half of all 70-percent disabled veterans, two thirds of all 80-percent disabled veterans and three-quarters of 90-percent disabled veterans are considered unemployable.

Szybala agreed with Commissioner Dennis V. McGinn, a retired Navy vice admiral, that IU is one of the "more controversial"features of the VA disability system. She also criticized as "shameless"the complexity of recent laws to ease the ban on concurrent receipt of military retirement and VA disability pay. While Congress has restored lost retired pay for combat-related disabilities, and has ordered phase out of pay reductions for retirees with serious non-combat-related ailments, the mishmash of laws also has left too many retirees confused or victims of payment errors, Szybala said.

Commissioner John H. Grady, an accountant from Texas who has served as an advisor to military's retirement fund account, said the commission should review the "guiding principle"behind concurrent receipt, given that there are "people who feel strongly for it and against it.''

Commissioner Rick Surratt, deputy legislative director for Disabled American Veterans, said the basis for concurrent receipt is that the two payments "are for different things"and one shouldn't reduce another. Retired pay is for service of 20 or more years; disability pay reimburses the veteran for loss of future earnings from service-connected impairments.

The recent laws are so complex, Surratt added, because they were shaped by "political decisions, not rationale decisions…Congress was working so hard not to do the right thing.''
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Stump ; Good Post and I pray and hope that our Gov't will always remember the men and women who has and still is and will be doing in the future to save and help keep our rights and freedoms as a GODLY " ONE NATION UNDER GOD " With out these brave Solider's we will not keep and love the land giving to us for the LORD GLORY and HONOR ! You are a good man Stump and I know you and I think alots in some area and I ask GOD to BLESS YOU for it !
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Hi,

I have shown and proved to the VA, over and over again, that I have been unemployable for 18 years, and been on Soc. Sec. for the same amount of time. Not to mention, I do have several service connected disabilities that is connected to my unemployability with Soc. Sec. The VA requested and received my file from Soc. Sec., a State Doctor diagnoised me and says I am unemployable and have been on Soc. Sec. ever since.

I was surpirsed that my C&P was moved up to this Saturday rather than the end of the month. Ever heard of a C&P taken place on a Saturday? The woman is traveling from a long distance to see me on a Saturday. Is that a good thing?

How long does the VA to inform me of my rating or another C&P appointment?

So, if I have proven without a shadow of a doubt that I am unemployable, why haven't I received my 100%?

Thank you for answering these questions,
TobiB.
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So, if I have proven without a shadow of a doubt that I am unemployable, why haven't I received my 100%?
IU or Individual Unemployability in VA speak has little to do with being fully disabled for Social Security. For SS you only need to have the requisite employment earnings and be totally disabled. How or why is irrelevant.

For VA Individual Unemployability you must either have one condition rated at 60% or have one condition at 40% with others totaling 70% coupled with a doctors statement that despite your disabilities based on the VASRD, you are in fact unemployable and that all factors making you unemployable are caused by your military service.

Perhaps if you posted your percentages and the narrative from the "Reasons and Bases" section of your last decision, we might be able to determine why your claims fail and what you need to do to qualify.
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