Agent Orange use in Korea '69-'71

Discussion in 'Agent Orange' started by Yoge Mountain, Jan 31, 2005.

  1. Yoge Mountain

    Yoge Mountain New Member

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    Looking for anyone with any knowledge of AO or AW being sprayed at S. Korea US Army camps and installations not on Korea's DMZ. My camp's personnel in '70-'71 were advised to stay indoors while hand spraying was going on to keep free firing lanes and camp roadways open. As MP I escorted laborers doing spraying. My Battery Clerk remembers 1st Sgt. and SSG discussion of avoiding spilloff into rice paddies and personnel safety. Thus far, US DOD only adnmits to hand spraying AO on the DMZ, and only during part of 1969. Yeah, right!
  2. bluejay02130

    bluejay02130 New Member

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    agent orange korea

    If anyone has any information or questions about spraying of agent orange in Korea in any year please contact me directly Bill Kenney [email protected]
  3. The AO Man

    The AO Man New Member

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    Yoge,

    See my post under the Agent Orange-Korea thread.

    Where were you stationed, exactly, and from when to when?
  4. Yoge Mountain

    Yoge Mountain New Member

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    Reply to AO Man

    I was stationed at Alpha Battery, 4th Missile Batallion (Herc), 44th Artillery Camp El Paso, Chinchon, Korea from June 1970-June 1971. Camp El Paso was located South-West of Seoul in Chungcheongbuk-do province, off a dirt road in a valley about mid-way between Cheongju and Chincheon. The closest villages were Sa Sok and Yoshi (sp?) villages. The site was very remote. About a 2 1/2 hr. ride North by deuce and a half to the nearest Army base - Camp Humphreys - Pyeongtaek.

    Our camp admin. area was situated in a vallley. Radar (ABAR, TTR, MTR) and firing control, and the Nike Hercules missile launch areas were located atop mountains 3/4 mile apart in distance.

    Our camp had infrequent enemy intrusion alerts, and we were always vigilant for NK infiltrators, (and slicky boys). Our camp consisted of about 70 men. We also had a small company of 2nd IF (?) camped with us on launcher hill as force protection. We frequently went to battle stations, as NK MIG jets would regularly fly South of the DMZ, test our acquisition radar lock capability, and then run back to DMZ. ( Don't know how they ever avoided our Hawks.) US fighter jets would practice low altitude bomb runs on our camp in case we were ever overrun. As part of intrusion alert drills, we drilled to destroy our Nike missile warheads with thermite grenades.

    Among others, our 1st Sgt. Dwight A. Logan would have first hand knowledge of what was sprayed and when.
  5. mcqueen

    mcqueen New Member

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    if you was in a hawk missile site in korea in 1970?

    I recently filed a claim for agent orange , i was stationed at delta seven five 7th battalion second artillery 38 Artillery brigade...does anyone recall them spraying in 1970, and could be my witness, they done some followup spraying where the agent orange has been less affected in earley spring in 1970, rok army was imployed to do this.. we who were stationed on the dmz got posioned by the stuff, the veteran adminstration says they don't have a record of where i was stationed in korea, it funny that they keep ever other record but the one i need so bad to prove that i was stationed on the dmz. if you recall them spraying this or have pictures dated 1970 please get in touch with me, at [email protected] I have type 2 dibeates and prostate problems and will be tested for cancer soon if my psa level come back high again. I am one scared man and i real worried about having cancer , im fifty seven now going on fifty eight, could anyone help me with this claim i would be so thankful if you could thanks for reading [email protected]
  6. TinCanMan

    TinCanMan Active Member

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    If you were attached to one of the following units during the specified time you are entitled to presumption of exposure and you don't need to prove it. Your records will speak for themselves as to what units you served with.

    DoD has confirmed that Agent Orange was used from April 1968 up through July 1969 along the DMZ

    Combat Brigade of the 2nd Infantry Division
    Division Reaction Force
    3rd Brigade of the 7th Infantry Division
    1st Battalion, 38th Infantry
    4th Squadron, 7th Cavalry, Counter Agent Company
    1st Battalion, 17th Infantry
    2nd Battalion, 38th Infantry
    1st Battalion, 31st Infantry
    1st Battalion, 23rd Infantry
    1st Battalion, 32nd Infantry
    2nd Battalion, 23rd Infantry
    2nd Battalion, 10th Cavalry
    3rd Battalion, 23rd Infantry
    2nd Battalion, 17th Infantry
    2nd Battalion, 31st Infantry
    Note: Service records may show assignment to either the 2nd or the 7th Infantry Division.
    2nd Battalion, 31st Infantry
    Note: Service records may show assignment to either the 2nd or the 7th Infantry Division.
    2nd Battalion, 32nd Infantry
    3rd Battalion, 32nd Infantry
    Note: Service records may show assignment to either the 2nd or the 7th Infantry.
    3rd Battalion, 32nd Infantry
    Note: Service records may show assignment to either the 2nd or the 7th Infantry.
    1st Battalion, 9th Infantry
    2nd Battalion, 9th Infantry
    1st Battalion, 72nd Armor
    2nd Battalion, 72nd Armor
    1st Battalion, 12th Artillery
    1st Battalion, 15th Artillery
    7th Battalion, 17th Artillery

    Combat Brigade of the 2nd Infantry Division
    Division Reaction Force
    3rd Brigade of the 7th Infantry Division
    5th Battalion, 38th Artillery
    6th Battalion, 37th Artillery

    Any and all spraying of AO was conducted by ROK troops. US troops were not involved in spraying.

    There is no evidence of spraying after July 1969 and no presumption is granted after that date.
  7. mcqueen

    mcqueen New Member

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    Agent orange

    i arrive in south korea in nov 1970 in june of that years rok army was asighned to spraying \where the agent orange, had not killed out certain areas , they come in the afternoon when the wind was not blowing and when was more of a calm, and resumed to cover the areas that was not killed out , watching them spray with back pack type sprayers and some were hand held type spray units, some of them was mixing the agent and others were spraying, they had two units working together , i asked one of the rok who could speak english what they were doing , he replied spraying to kill out vegtation so american troops could see south korean enemys, he was wet from foot to knees and was not even wearing gloves, he said lazy man who first sprayed left out areas and now they had to fix that, he must of been the commander in charge he was showing the working crew where to spray, I never thought nothing about it at the time and was not aware or told of previous spraying in 1969. the spraying was along the out side of the fence line and certain areas with the second preminiter also was treated, i recall they was not long in finishing the followup and was not their long ,i rember the foul smell that drifted to where i was at, and wondered what in the world they had in those spray units, no wonder that stuff messed up so many man lives it was some hot foul crap that is for sure,
  8. TinCanMan

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    I'm sorry. What you tell us isn't going to get you an award. You do not meet the requirements for presumption of exposure during 1968/69 and your story isn't evidence. You need to find hard, factual evidence your story is true. Written reports/pictures of the time or something similar.
  9. mcqueen

    mcqueen New Member

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    i know that the fact are all that will matter and i cannot prove that i was exposed, but va has the wheel that turned men down, i really don't have a leg to stand on and not a bit of proof, but the truth is that agent orange was sprayed in june of 1970 and the Good lord above knows that, im quiting trying it is no use , with no proof no record that i was even there is enought to convince me that its not worth my efforts, thanks for everthing anyway, if i had taken some pictures of them spraying it i dought if they would accept them, i cannot find one veteran to back up my witness and that tell me i have had the big lick on proveing any thing
  10. natstarter

    natstarter New Member

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    Agent Orange Use in Korea

    I don't know anything about your location and Agent Orange, but I do know that AO was sprayed at other places than the DMZ. I was stationed at Camp Humphrey Korea at Pyong Taek. I am positive that I guarded KATUSA's spraying AO in our operations compound. There are several other people that also said the same thing. Later in 1969, when i was stationed at Det A of the USASAOC, I am positive that I sprayed AO or one of the other ones at our detachment operations area.

    When I was at the detachment, the barrels of AO were delivered by a Navy LST. (One of two ways to get to the detachment. The other way was by C-47 landing on a beach).

    I have submitted a claim to the VA for AO exposure. It is still pending.

    I have been trying to get a shipping manifest for the LST, but I have no had any luck.

    By the way, the documentation that I have been able to find is that the Army sprayed AO and did not keep complete records and in some cases just let a good supply clerk obtain it by being a good scrounger.

    I wouldn't give up, keep trying to get the evidence that you need.

    Doug
  11. TinCanMan

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    Personal testimony is not persuasive. If it were, everyone that served anywhere would already have an award. The VA will want to see documented evidence of an official nature.
  12. Phil A

    Phil A New Member

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    BVA Decision

    I just received my BVA decision for P/N in which the judge ruled in my favor which stated, Considering the pertinent evidence of record, and resolving all reasonable doubt in the veteran's favor, the Board finds that a grant of service connection for peripheral neuropathy of the upper and lower extremities is warranted. My question is this a final decision or can it be overturned. Phil A
  13. TinCanMan

    TinCanMan Active Member

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    Phil:

    Congrats, FWIW, the VA doesn't talk about issues being final. They usually say permanent which means no further C&P exams are scheduled. That doesn't mean that one cannot be scheduled if something comes to their attention.

    They also have the 10 and 20 year rules. The 10 year rule says once a decision is in place for 10 years it will not be eliminated. It can be reduced, but not eliminated.

    The 20 year rule states that once a decision has been in place for 20 years it cannot be reduced or eliminated unless fraud was involved in the granting.

    Prior to 10 years it can be pulled or reduced if they discover an error in the granting.

    If you post the date of your decision and the citation number, I can look it up and let you know what it means. These are all public information and all personal info has been removed from the document

    Phil, aren't you a Thailand AF vet? Just going from old memories. How did you get BVA to SC PN?
  14. Phil A

    Phil A New Member

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    I am a Nam vet TCM. The BVA Docket # 05-37 916 ,Date 2 June 2008 my rep was the DAV. Thanks, Phil A.
  15. TinCanMan

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    Oh gee, that is new. It won't hit the BVA website for about 2 mos. When I can get a copy, I'll let you know what I think it says. Do not publish this online unless you remove all personal info.
  16. Phil A

    Phil A New Member

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    I will wait until you can obtain it. Iwill not publish it on line. Thanks TCM. Phil A.
  17. korea7072

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    here's a new bit of info published in the March/April 2011 issue of Disabled American Vets.on page 35 bottom half of this page, titled:NEW RULES AID KOREAN WAR VETERANS EXPOSED TO AGENT ORANGE. under the final rule,VA will presume herbicide exposure for any veterans who served between April 1,1968 and Aug.31,1971,in a unit determined by VA and the Deptmant of Defense(DOD) to have operated in an area in or near the Korean DMZ in which herbicides were applied. this is just one paragraph of 4 but the most important one.finally the date has been widen,as it should be and even more. I was stationed there in all of '71 to Feb 14th of '72 perhaps and was stationed in Yongsong and Ascom.we were in the motor pool,in transportation,so we were all over the area and then some.Kimpo,Inchon,Taegue with a trip to even Pusan.nicest place to be,unfortunately it was just for 24 hours.what a R & R. I was stationed right next door to a helicopter Unit in Ascom and have a few pictures of the base in the backround but with the fence wire,it's hard to see much,other than it's a helicopter base.I will get to these again and look.Rmember the Va is like an insurance company.they will deny,delay & dsiqualify.it's has been written that some of these VA Reps have given themselves up to 80% raises.WOW who would ever get that much of an increaee. and have had parties for deny Veterans. so sad.we we thought they were helping us. what a Joke. we need to use a private attorney,which I'm ready to start that process,currently.almost 40 yrs.now.the Government has also put a ceiling on how much an attorney can charge you,$20 p/hr.. Sad,I thought I was standing guard agasint the spread of Communisium but sorry to find they have infiltrated our Government!! they can close it down thsi Friday,for all I care.Stop Paying Politicians & Goverment Heads.
  18. JSAVET

    JSAVET New Member

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    My initial claim for agent orange compensation for Korean DMZ service 1968-1969, was accepted by the VA via telephone on 3 Feb 2011. VA said it would take 4-5 months for initial determination.
  19. johniesee

    johniesee New Member

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    I was stationed at Co A 728 MP Bn. ASCOM 3/69 – 12-69, 13 S&S Bn. Yongsam 1/70- 4/70. I was detached from ASCOM to Korea Regional Exchange Depot Inchon to do armed escorts for PX trucks across ROK 5/69 – 12/69. I escorted the trucks to almost all locations of PX outlets including camps that were North of Freedom Bridge, i.e. Joint Security Area. I now have diabetes Type 2 and many associated conditions. My claim for service connection and compensation was denied due to location – bass campo (ASCOM) was 17 miles south of DMZ My case is on appeal – in the DRO review stage since last year with no word yet. I have found an attorney that was interested in ASCOM vets obtaining benefits, he already represents some. I’d like to hear who you are doing.
    John Clark ([email protected])
  20. Julian

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