Is it over?

Discussion in 'VVnW & The Veterans Coalition' started by bkinnam, May 20, 2005.

  1. DonaldN

    DonaldN New Member

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    I was just challenged that the position of SE Asian Cordinator is still on the VVnW web site. So I'm cutting & pasting that list for all to see that that position has been removed. List is dated 8/2005. By the way, Nick Rock also coordinated and advised PH-01 & PH-02, the 2 posts in the Phillipines. I supposed they will soon be "history", too.

    Another coincindence is that TONIGHT, as I type this, the New York VVnW posts are participating in a Veterans ceremony establishing an Asian Pacific War Memorial on Long Island in New York State. AND the VVnW National head's are not attending (I guess it's not far enough to make it a profitable trip). I instead they are desolving our relationship, support and guidance to our South East Asian comrades in arms. Another bit of great timing and support by VVnW! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR A VETERAN TODAY, PETEY?
    HEIL FUROR FORBESY!

    I see that Mike Murphy is the Election Committee chair and Nancy's son, Johnathon Curley, is national secretary. Now is this the "National VVnW Show' or the "All In The Family Show"??? BOY! DO THINGS GET CHANGED AROUND FAST!

    Maybe I can keep up with the switch & changing going on if I check in every day. But I have other important things to do. I'll try to keep it straight. Thanks for the help of my friends.

    DonaldN


    Here's their list of officers and Advisors: (YOU WON'T FIND NICK ROCK LISTED OR ANY S.E.ASIAN ADVISOR)

    Veterans of the Vietnam War, Inc. and the Veterans CoalitionNational Board of Directors, and Advisors to the Board of Directors: National Board of Directors:Breighner, Michael T.----Board Member -- National Master Sgt.-At-Arms; Forbes, Peter J. ---------- Board Member -- National Commander; Haines, Robert SFC ---- Board Member -- National Treasurer; Hoffmeister, Marc ------ Board Member; Smith, Loy ---------------Board Member; Snyder, Bob -------------Board Member; Verespy, Nancy --------- Board Member -- National Executive Director; Lawrence Collins--------- Board Member; Vacant ------------------ National Treasurer; David D. Hack----------- Honorary Board Member; Milne, Michael ---------- Founding Commander Emeritus; Program Directors, Advisors to the Board of Directors:Accounting/State Registration Committee: Robert M. Urich; Bylaws Committee: Thomas O'Connor (Attorney), Nancy Verespy, Peter Forbes; Convention Committee: Nancy Verespy, Peter Forbes, Pat Smith, Gayle Chenier; Direct Mail Advisor: GSB Associates - Sally Baines; Education Program: Morris Miller; Election Committee: Michael Murphy; National Secretary, Jonathon R. Curley Nancy Verespy; Finance/Budget Committee: Nancy Verespy, Loy Smith; Fund-Raising Committee: Peter Forbes, Nancy Verespy , Loy Smith; Grant Writing Committee: Chuck Forbes, Ruth Forbes, Peter Forbes, Nancy Verespy; Homeless Veterans Program: Peter Forbes; Legal Advisor: Thomas A. O'Connor Atty.; Membership/Post Liaison Committee: Anselmo "Sonny" Alvarez, Peter Forbes, Nancy Verespy; Policy Committee: Peter Forbes, Nancy Verespy; POW/MIA: Michael Breighner; Team Veteran Leader Adventure Racing: Marc Hoffmeister, Gayle Hoffmeister, Robert Haines; Veterans Day National Committee: Michael Breighner, Peter Forbes; Veterans Fund of the United States: Peter Forbes, Nancy Verespy; Veterans Health Information: Phil Kraft (National Veterans Services Fund) Veterans in Conflict: TBAWebmaster: Marc Hoffmeister

    Veterans Service Officers: (by state)
    KS-David HahnKYLarry & Lorie Braun
    LA-Thomas E. Tabor
    NY-Mike AckerfeldDenise AckerfeldPenny KabischJeremiah SimpsonLaurence M. AltenburgFrank AmalfitanoMichael A CastagnaroEugene P. ClarkRay L. ColonLouis V. DeCiantisJohn F. FoxCarol S. HerbstRev. Frank LaPennaMichael McGivernMorris MillerJames H. RogersBenjamin SantanaRobert T. SpicerHerbert SweatPatrick J. Yngstrom
    OH-Ronald E. DullLeo R. GelsingerRobert R. GibsonBeth LeidyRobert A. MinnearJohn E. PayneRonald L. SalvadorRichard K. SmithSteven R. White
    PA-Anthony CelesteWalter MistysynMichael MurphyHarry C. Russell, Sr.John L. Russell
    WA-Anselmo (Sonny) Alvarez (Revised 08/05)
  2. DonaldN

    DonaldN New Member

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    What has VVnW done for veterans this week?

    The title is only to remind us that the VVnW don't do anything like posting important information as indicated in the VFW Weekly below. :(


    VFW WASHINGTON WEEKLY
    November 4, 2005

    In this issue:
    1. House/Senate To Compromise On VA Funding
    2. Protect Veterans Benefits
    3. Hearing Discusses VBA Budget
    4. Vet Committee Reviews VA Individual Unemployability
    5. Senate Confirms Three to VA Positions
    ____________________________________________________


    1. House/Senate To Compromise On VA Funding

    The House and Senate are conferencing to resolve the differences in their VA funding bills. The bills, which are for Fiscal Year 2006, which began October 1, 2005, differ greatly in their amount of funding, and we need you to contact your Congressmen and Senators to ensure that VA is funded properly.

    The Senate has recommended a roughly $3.2 billion increase in veterans health care funding. The House number is around $2 billion less.

    The numbers are so far apart because the Senate's figure includes funding to fix the VA funding shortfall, due partially to increased demand, but mostly to VA's bad budget projections.

    The House had previously passed an emergency spending bill to close the gap, but that was just for the previous budget. The Senate's bill includes approximately $2 billion, bringing them in line with the VFW's projections, as part of the Independent Budget. Those projections have proven to be more accurate than VA's.

    The Senate seems to be holding strong to its numbers, but the leadership in the House is pushing for the lower funding figure.

    Please call your legislators, and tell them that you want them to approve the Senate's level of VA funding in the VA Appropriation.

    The best way to contact them is to call their local offices. That way they know that you're a constituent, and that the people who vote for them care about this issue. Those numbers can be found in your local phone directories.

    Please take five minutes to do this. The fight will be close, and we need to leverage the power of the VFW. Together, we can make a difference.


    2. Protect Veterans Benefits

    Another important difference in the House and Senate funding bills is in their attitude towards VA's PTSD review.

    Recall that VA is re-opening over 70,000 claims from veterans suffering from PTSD with the sole intention of reducing their disability compensation. These claims have already been approved, going through VA's rigorous adjudication process.

    The review creates several problems.

    First, there are already over 700,000 claims pending before VA. This review claims that have will divert many experienced ratings specialists away from vital work. Service members returning from Iraq and Afghanistan, for example, have reported problems with the timeliness of their GI Bill claims; other returning service members, who have suffered traumatic injuries, must wait many months before getting the compensation they obviously deserve. With fewer raters available, the backlog will increase, and these veterans will be harmed.

    Second, with VA is creating new stresses and reopening old wounds for these veterans. It could also prevent veterans who truly need VA's compensation, and the mental health services it provides from seeking the care they need.

    The Senate's version of the bill prevents the review from moving forward until VA properly justifies it. The House bill does not have this provision.

    It has been reported that the House conferees support the review and are trying to kill the Senate provision.

    We must let them know where the VFW stands. Please take thirty seconds and send out a prepared message on this important issue. With just one click, you can send an email to all your legislators, greatly helping our cause. We need Congress to hear the VFW's voice!

    To send a prepared email message, please visit:
    http://capwiz.com/vfw/mail/oneclick_compose/?alertid=8079626

    Many hundreds of you have already sounded off. We thank you for your efforts! But we need to turn that into many thousands! Send a message and share the link with as many people as you can. The more Congress hears from us, the better our chance for success. Make a difference today!

    2. Hearing Discusses VBA Budget

    House Veterans Affairs’ Subcommittee on Disability Assistance and Memorial Affairs held a hearing to review the Veterans Benefits Administration’s (VBA) annual budget.

    Admiral Daniel Cooper, Under Secretary for Benefits, provided the only testimony to the committee. Describing the budget formulation process for VBA’s Compensation and Pension Program, Admiral Cooper outlined how VBA plans for its annual workload and caseload. He explained that workload refers to the number of claims submitted by veterans and caseload refers to the number of veterans and dependents receiving monthly compensation. According to Cooper, “payroll funding to support staffing requirements is the largest part of their budget.”

    Several members of the committee questioned Cooper on his staffing needs with regard to claims review time, appeals, and if they (VBA) were able to handle the upcoming 72,000 PTSD cases being re-reviewed for discrepancies.

    Chairman Jeff Miller (R-FL) said he plans to have several hearings on VBA budget needs and formulation.

    For more information on the hearing go to the HVAC website at:
    http://veterans.house.gov/hearings/completed.html



    3. Senate Vet Committee Reviews VA Individual Unemployability

    VFW provided written testimony to the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee on VA’s Individual Unemployability (IU) Program. The oversight hearing was held to examine the current VA IU Benefit system. The hearing comes on the heels of recent reports regarding re-review of PTSD claims and the Veterans’ Disability Benefit Commission’s own review of the IU system.

    Chairman Larry Craig (R-ID) heard testimony from several members of VBA as well as VA Vocational Rehabilitation and Employment Services, and GAO regarding concerns about the rising number of veterans rated unemployable. VFW believes that the IU benefit is an essential part of the Veterans’ Compensation program. Without the authority under IU, many heroic veterans and their families would be leading a deprived life.

    For more on the hearing go to the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee website at: http://veterans.senate.gov/

    4. Senate Confirms Three to VA Positions

    Last week, the Senate approved three of its own to fill positions within VA.

    Former Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee staff director and chief counsel, William F. Tuerk will now oversee the VA national cemetery system as the new Under Secretary for Memorial Affairs.

    Robert J. Henke will be the next Assistant Secretary for Management, which handles budgetary issues within VA. Henke was a former staffer for the Senate Appropriations Committee.

    Lisette M. Mondello former Communications Director for Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson was also approved and will become VA’s next Assistant Secretary for Public and Intergovernmental Affairs.

    For more on the individuals confirmed go to the Senate Veterans Affairs’ Committee website: http://veterans.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Newsroom.PressReleases&id=294
  3. thumper178

    thumper178 New Member

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    I don't really think it is over. I do believe there are many great veterans out there. Our hearts are always in a good place to do the right things for so many. We are just slowed down a little. But the heat will be turned on soon. The question is just how many of the remaining posts will have the guts to have national open the board meetings again. Join forces and demand that things need to be fixed. Not just runned by a few individuals who believe they are doing the right thing.
    If I worked hard to raise monies for my area. WHY - would I give it to National when you can't get a clear answer where the monies are going. And why aren't any members allowed to talk with any board members. I would think a board member who be happy to get input on different things.
    So I say to the many out there. Is It Over With??????????????? I BELIEVE NOT.
    thumper178
  4. 3cav

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    Hang in there

    Looks like the big Commander is here in Australia doing a PTSD course! to try to understand why a pissy little 89 day tour when he must have left the main base at Nui Dat at least once or twice has given him "Chronic PTSD". You notice that the rest of us just have PTSD or Ordinary PTSD but Forbes has to have "Chronic PTSD". I wonder if he is starting to build his defense case already, I reckon the investigation could be turning up all sorts of interesting facts and what will his main defense be for his actions,
    "Your honour I have been suffering from Chronic PTSD ever since my 89 days in Vietnam and I have had no control of my actions ever since" As a TPI who can work no longer than 8 hours a week for pay what is he doing with a Green Card over there? Can anyone with "Chronic PTSD" forfill the duties of the Commander of the VVnW INTERNATIONAL and VVnW Australia, what with all the flying (business class) and all the travelling in the USA, no wonder Nancy has to accompany him and stay with him in the same room to tend his needs and make sure he takes his medication.

    Hang in there, old slippery Pete has been lucky with previous investigations with technicalities etc but this is the big one, strike 3 your out! catchya later
  5. DonaldN

    DonaldN New Member

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    I WISH I WAS THE PITCHER!!
    DonaldN
  6. rar.regt

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    I agree with Terry McGee. Get the VVnW back to its original concept. As an Australian veteran I would be honoured to be an Associate member of a rejuvinated VVnW under the leadership of some of the fine correspondants of this forum. In most of the Veteran Associations here in Australia the Constitution bars Associated Members from holding senior positions on the executive. Posts in allied counties should not be allowed, as quite often they can be springboards for curruption.
    Our main veterans organisation, The Returned & Services League, no longer looks after what we call 'Returned From Active Service Personel.' They are too busy recruiting anyone who had the slightest thread to the Military ie 'My Grannie once travelled on an Army bus.' The reason of course is so that they can get the funds to support their 'nose in the trough' bureaucracy.

    Some concerned veterans are seriously considering forming a new organisation called; 'The Veterans Unity Alliance.' Membership would only be open to returned servicemen entitled to wear the Returned from Active Service Badge. We would not accept any funds from government agencies which should prevent the fawning and obsequitious oliticians which on now. This sort of behaviour prevents true representations being made to governments and is detrimentalto the interests of all veterans.

    Jock Clarkson
  7. bluewaves

    bluewaves New Member

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    Hi, I'm a Vietnam Veteran, and a lifemember of VVNW, Peter Forbes, has done a number on my Post in New Albany, In. I read where you would like to see their 990's. Well I just just happen to have theirs from years 2003-2004.
    See being a Vietnam Vet, I feel I have been stepped on and used enough. I WILL NOT let a non American tell me what I can do and not do. Peters has (been so busy taking care of us Veterans) they have not filed their 990's for
    2005. I left the org once, but I WILL NOT leave again. Please me MUST
    STICK TOGETHER, think of Forbes and his (whatevers) can't print what I feel
    Nancy, and all are. Lets let them know our org is for VIETNAM Veterans.
  8. joeblowj0

    joeblowj0 New Member

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    Very good tread

    :) This is for you new comers. It took me awhile, to learn about the archives. I check Veteran Resources everyday and so should you. There is interesting subjects and fact on here from time to time. I went back and read some of these replies and thought some of you may want to do the same. This was one of the good ones. check it out again.
    Happy Late Fourth of July.
  9. Bertf

    Bertf New Member

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    Just a short report from the real caring veterans who were once VVNW but are now the New York VWVA. We collected 51 boxes of food last weekend and a small amount of cash donations (Sorry Peter, you don't get half). All the food and the cash will be used when we feed homeless veterans at the next stand down on July 16. This summer stand down includes a barbecue for the homeless, and of course we send them to various stations where they receive information about their benefits, and finally give them clothes and canned foodstuffs to help them out. Unlike the winter stand downs where we get over 200 homeless veterans, last year's initial summer stand down had 89 homeless. We are hoping that our signs and word of mouth will up the number to about 120 this year. What about the rest of you guys. When are you going to break away and start doing your own thing without guidance from Peter and his crew? You all know what is needed in your own areas. Just do it!
  10. macv70

    macv70 New Member

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    First time posting. Was referred to the site by an old friend (bkinanm) and lurked for a couple of months reading posts and going through all of the archives. I recognize a few names (DonaldN, bkinanm, Stew and a few others) and agree with the views posted.

    I dropped my membership at the beginning of 2006. I sent a letter to National expressing exactly why I was doing that. I was a charter member of my post, joined in the late '80's, held some offices and was active on and off. I wish I had a copy of the letter but my old computer crashed and its still on that hard drive.

    Before that, I send back my election form the previous year with comments as to why this was a Vietnam veterans organization but the majority of nominees were non-Vietnam vets. I refused to vote in that election but from what I see in the archives my vote probably wasn't looked at anyway.

    In my resignation letter I expressed my displeasure over the dues raise, the excessive travel, the non-accountability of funds, and the dictatorial attitude of the National office over the posts. Needless to say I never got any response. On the other hand they never got my dues.

    Sadly, the VVnW has lost its focus. I'm not one to try to reinvigorate it, it is dead. It is sad to see that the orgainzation will still try to fleece the unwary.

    With hope some people will check out this site and see what is really going on before they decide to get affiliated.

    Donald: Thanks for all of your postings. I enjoy them. You have always been a fighter and sorry we did not keep in touch over the years. But I am here now.

    To others that I do not know personnally: thanks for keeping up the fight for veterans and for your involvement your local communities.

    I look forward to future participation.

    macv70
  11. bkinnam

    bkinnam Member

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    MACV70,
    Welcome aboard! I told you there was good reading on this site! I'm glad you made the jump and you can see for yourself what was/is transpiring at the VVnW HQ. I glad you had the fore sight to see it for yourself and I wish that others would wake up as to what is happening.

    If you notice their website hasn't really been updated in over a year, except to congradulate the newly elected followers of Forbsey!

    Yes, Don out does himself in keeping updates posted on this site! This website is grand and should be refered to ALL veterans and Active duty personell and their families, so that they don't take the plunge and believe in something like we did that was once a good organization! I too was a past offiicer in the same post as you are aware and we did some great things together as a post! You don't see that post making a lot of headway as far as being in the public eye.

    Remember the life membership that I was awarded as outstanding member of the post? Well being nominated by the post and awarded it by national then being stripped of it by being suspended. the only way I could possibly become a member again was to pay my dues again which I did for a year, then I found that the local post really wasn't ready for me because I had good ideas that some non-veterans couldn't comprehend and I just got pissed off and said the hell with it and walked out of a meeting never to return nor look back.

    Bkinnam
  12. macv70

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    bkinnam,

    thanks for pointing me here and your remarks are right on target about the site. You put hundreds, if not thousands of hours, into this organization and for what? They shoved up your ass as they did to Donald, Richard, and others who saw threw the smokescreen and called them to account.

    Again, sad to see a Vietnam Vets organization disintegrate like this one did.
  13. joeblowj0

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    Dumping the proud

    I started LA Post #4, in Thibodaux, LA. While I was Post Commander, this post received numerous awards and thank you letters from the local schools, college, businesses, and organizations in this community. This was an active post. Hell, this post received, " Volunteers of The Year Award ", in November 2001, which I was honored to walk up to the podium and receive for the post I was so proud of. The plaque stated " Greater Love Hath no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends ". Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to say who presented me with the plaque. It was a lady named Nancy Verespy, who at the time was Executive Director for Veteran's of The Vietnam War Inc.
    The only things this post do now, I'm told is have a meeting once a month with about 10 veterans attending. I'm told they have fund raisers, but 100% of the money stays with the post. Why do the other post send 50% of their take to Petety and LA Post #4 keep their funds.
    Now that I didn't want to play footsy, with Loy Smith and John Guillot of LA Post #4, Peter Forbes terminated me with a letter that was post marked in Lafayette, LA. The letter stated I was terminated at the National Board Meeting. The only board members present in Louisiana for Mardi Gras at that time was Loy Smith, Peter Forbes and Nancy Verespy.
    What the hell, like you good people, I was put out for helping Vietnam Veterans. The wanna bees have taken over. Why not change the name to the Veteran Coalition, or the great wanna bees. :confused:
  14. ClaymoreTheGreat

    ClaymoreTheGreat New Member

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    Now here's the "dumb-question" of the day.. Not ever bein' a VVnW member I am jest curious, "Was VVnW, ever, an all Vietnam Veterans Organization..?"

    Jest Curious.. ... ..
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    Claymore,

    It did start out as an all Vietnam vets organization, but as the membership did not grow they began to accept Vietnam-era vets and associates. As I recall the original by-laws limited nonv VN-era vets and associates to a % of membership.

    I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but I was always offended by members who were not In-country vets. I wanted to be associated with VN vets.

    To me, Vietnam meant . . . Vietnam. I know that everyone had to be somewhere but if you were not in VN don't pretend that you were and join a VN vets organization.

    I'm glad the one organization I remain with has strict SE Asia ties in order to belong.

    macv70
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    Thanks Mac,

    Like you, I only wanted to associate with VN Vets.. .. I doubt it if there are any, or at least, not very many, exclusive Vietnam Vet organizations.. ... ..
  17. joeblowj0

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    Vietnam Vet

    I live in a little community called Chopic Louisiana. My neighbor was complaining about the boundry line. I said, no problem, we will get it surveyed. It ended up in court, and the judge made the comment " there is more property in Choupic than there is on file in the clerk's office. In other words, people claim more property than they own. In the clerk's office, there ain't that much property in Choupic.
    This reminds me of Vietnam. Most soldiers did not wanted to go to Nam, or would tell anyone they were in Nam. Today, in 2007, there are more Vietnam Veterans than there were reported by the War Department at the end of the war. Could that be a miscount , are could it be a lot of veterans claiming to be in Vietnam, and were never there. These wanna bees want to be known as Vietnam War Veterans now that America is Finally Reconizing the Vietnam Veteran.
    I'm sorry, but if you weren't there then, you are not a Vietnam War Veteran Now.
    I was there, and that does piss me off, I'm sorry.:mad:
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    Here in Western PA and Eastern Ohio we DID have Vietnam Era Veterans Orgs....Each separate, but together, and utilizing the names of the Counties they represented. They were formed in 1980. One remains... as the others either folded or molded into groups like the VVnW, VVA. The VVA seems to be holding on... It does seem the VVnW is really in name only.. even one chapter near here does more work OUTSIDE the VVnW and just keeps the name.

    I am watching the Pure Vietnam Era Veterans Orgs shrink as the membership dies at an increasing rate.... Nationwide maybe 300-400 per day. The one Vietnam Era Veteran Group left in my area does not and will not have "SON'S OF".... or open beyond it's established dates 1957-1975.... so no one from outside the Date or Service. They were established to "Die". They were established for specific Veterans.



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    Here is something of interest

    This might help you decide if it was a pleasure trip or a business trip
    nMenu
    if you follow this link you will find out. When the screen loads up go to the small headings under the Forbes America slogan and click on each of them. This was all done when little Petey was or is supposed to be a TPI (Totally and Permanently Incapacitated)
  20. tienhinhconcho2018

    tienhinhconcho2018 New Member

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    Ba năm cho 'nhớ thương ở ai'

    Gần đây, Khánh có gọi điện và nhờ Hương tìm diễn viên để quay MV cho Khánh, Hương vẫn sẵn sàng và trợ giúp Khánh nồng nhiệt. Trong đó, có nhiều khán giả bàn tán không ngớt về trang phục áo yếm không mặc nội y của dàn diễn viên nữ trong phim. thoạt tiên, anh chọn miền Tây Nam Bộ nhưng khi về đó được biết nhà văn Nguyễn Ngọc Tư đã bán bản quyền tác phẩm của mình nên Lưu Trọng Ninh quyết định chọn nông thôn miền Bắc. Nương là vai diễn cá tính và ấn tượng, khác tuốt những vai diễn mà Thanh Hương từng đảm đương.

    Xuất hiện trong buổi tiệc lên chức ‘cô chủ nhỏ’ của người em kết nghĩa - Hồ Thị Lan Anh, diễn viên Thanh Hương được các fan vây kín. Tuy nhiên, bên cạnh những phản hồi hăng hái của khán giả về nội dung, phim cũng gây nhiều tranh biện qua chi tiết dàn diễn viên nữ không mặc nội y. Ngoài Lâm Visay và Thanh Hương, "nhớ thương ở ai" còn có sự góp mặt của NSND Thanh Ngoan, Thiện Tùng, Ngọc Anh, Hồng Kim Hạnh, Trà My,. Các đạo diễn vẫn đo ni đóng giày cho Hương những vai diễn cá tính, có nhẽ vì nhìn mặt 2 usd in hình con chó mình vào vai hiền không ổn (cười). Vì quá trình các bạn học thì tôi phải đi học làm diễn viên. Với phim truyền hình nhớ thương ở ai, đạo diễn Lưu Trọng Ninh và Bùi Thọ Thịnh đã đưa vào phim nhiều tuyến nhân vật hơn và thêm thắt nhiều nhân tố mới.

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