MRB/PEB Question

Discussion in 'General Medical' started by Wounded Eagle, Jan 8, 2008.

  1. Wounded Eagle

    Wounded Eagle New Member

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    Hi All,
    I am a new member here with a question. I suffered a shoulder dislocation while on active duty in 1993(Berlin). I suffered another dislocation on the same shoulder in 1994 while in Haiti for Operation Uphold Democracy. I was sent to physical therapy for one year and given a P3 profile.(I was an 11B Squad Leader) I went thru the ETS physical where the doctor informed me to seek VA compensation which I did.(that was in 1995 when I ets'd) The VA awarded me 20% because according to them and their wisdom "it does not limit daily life activities". In 1997 I suffered yet another dislocation of the same shoulder. In 2000 I elected to join the National Guard to continue service, I did not want to waste my 11 years of active duty time. last year in 2007 I dislocated the same shoulder. I saw a specialist in Orthopedics who recommended surgery. here is the kicker. I now have 17 years of service and I am being referred to the MEB and quite possibly the PEB as well. what would be the end result? I don't want to be kicked oout and waste all my years. I have also requested for copies of my medical records from St. Louis Missouri, does anyone know how long it takes to receive them? any advice would be appreciated. I am currently serving as a 74D. Chemical Operations Specialist. Thank you for taking the time to read this.
  2. TinCanMan

    TinCanMan Active Member

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    Certain Soldiers who are found unfit by the PEB may request to be Continued on Active
    Duty (COAD) or in Active Reserve (COAR) status as an exception to policy. Approval
    for COAD/COAR rests with Human Resources Command and the National Guard. The
    PEB does NOT approve or disapprove a COAD/COAR request. To be considered for
    COAD or COAR, you must have a condition that will not require undue loss of time from
    duty for medical treatment, must not pose a risk to the health and safety of yourself or
    other Soldiers, be physically capable of performing useful duty in an MOS for which
    currently qualified or potentially trainable, and meet one of the following criteria:
    - Have 15 but less than 20 years of active federal service (COAD) or qualifying
    service for nonregular retirement (COAR), or
    - Be qualified in a critical skill or shortage MOS, or
    - Have a disability that resulted from combat operations or terrorism.
    Normally a COAD/COAR application is submitted by a Soldier when his/her MEB is
    completed. PEBLOs can provide more information on the COAD/COAR process.


    Getting any records out of the National Archives used to take a good 6 mos. I'm hearing veterans tell me it's been less than a month recently.
  3. Wounded Eagle

    Wounded Eagle New Member

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    another question

    Thank you Sir for your quick response. I have another question though. the VA rated me as 20% disabled. I hear you need 30% or more for retirement. I meet all the other criteria. my question is, if the military rates me at 20% does that add to the VA's rating as well for 40%?

    I have not yet spoke to a representative about my MEB yet as it is in the beginning stages at this point. Thank you for your time and assistance.
  4. Vike17

    Vike17 Member

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    Wounded Eagle,

    I don't really know much about the MEB/PEB process with DoD, but if I'm not mistaken one needs a 30% rating from them to receive retirement benefits.

    The VA rating of 20% has no bearing on a DoD rating. The only thing that will happen is if you received severance pay of any kind from DoD, the VA must withold their payment until the amount of the severence pay is paid back.

    Vike 17
  5. TinCanMan

    TinCanMan Active Member

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    VA ratings and DoD ratings are entirely seperate issues. They do not get added or combined. Additionally, when DoD rates your disabling conditions, they only consider those conditions which may make you unsuitable for further service. The VA, OTOH, considers all disabling conditions. The rating from DoD will, in all liklihood, be different from that of the VA.

    Any rating of 10 or 20% from DoD will get you seperation pay and a high five on the way out the gate. If they rate you 30% or more you will get a medical retirement and no separation pay.

    If you get separation pay and later go to the VA and get ratings that include those which earned you seperation pay, the VA will recoup all the separation pay before you receive all your compensation.

    Once you go to PEB you can ask for a formal hearing and have legal representation. That representation can be free from JAG or you can hire an attorney. I'd recommend you have legal representation.
  6. Wounded Eagle

    Wounded Eagle New Member

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    Thank you Sirs' for your responses. Hope you don't mind if I have questions later.
  7. TinCanMan

    TinCanMan Active Member

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    That's pretty much why VRO exists. Ask all the questions you like.
  8. skinerine

    skinerine New Member

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    Wounded Eagle,

    I went through the MEB/PEB last year with horrible results. I had 16 years of service on active duty. As the others posted to your question, DoD and VA ratings are not the same (same rating tables) but very different.

    You will be required to write a statement on your behalf to the Med Board. I would insure you clearly state your intent to remain in service. After 17 years, your dedication should not be in question.

    Also insure when you do your phase 1 & 2 physical, that you note and have reviewed EVERY single issue you have or did have during service. The sheet you feel out is a pain, when I did it I failed to review my records to capture dates of injuries/illness to place on the evaluation sheets. That would later come back to bite me. These issues will be for consideration by the Med Board. Although most are not reason to discharge you from service, it will still remain a matter of record, and should you be discharged it will service when you go to the VA. Point is.... put every issue on paper for the Med Board.

    You stated you are National Guard... Are you in a AGR position. I served only in the Active Army, I'm not sure what your retirement benefits for the NG are unless your AGR (medical, etc). Always consider that when trying to stay in service.

    If I had it all over to do... I would have fought to stay in. As you know with your breaks in service, you'll find yourself drawn back out of dedication to service. If you get a Medical Discharge (based on what code) it will not be easy to get back in. You have a huge decision to make on this one, like myself after a year after discharge. I regret the whole thing. Not easy to take care of the familiy paying all that money for medical insurance (monthly) when I could have had it with retirement and pay next to nothing for life.....

    Thanks for your service.....

    skinerine
  9. Wounded Eagle

    Wounded Eagle New Member

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    Thanks for the info Drill,
    My Years of service was interrupted by this injury. I was on my 11th year of service (Active duty) when it occurred and I found myself on a downward spiral. after a five year break I enlisted into the Air National Guard and did 6 years with them then transferred back to the Army side just last year and this injury has re-surfaced plus the news that I will be going before the med board. Thank you Sir for your advice and for your service as well.

    (Update) I apologize Skinerine, I ranted on and did not acknowledge all that you have endured. Hope both you and family are doing well. Stay "Army Strong".
  10. damagedgoods

    damagedgoods New Member

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    PEB forum

    If you are going to be going through the MEB/PEB process I highly recommend this forum: www.pebforum.com

    It has really great accurate information about the whole process from the beginning to the end.

    Good luck,
    damagedgoods

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