New Standards for Marines Physical Fitness Tests

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  1. DonaldN

    DonaldN New Member

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    http://www.marines.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/0/DB2E4E6288C9EB48852573B700779D7F?opendocument
    New standards mean 1st class PFT won’t save overweight Marines

    MARINE CORPS AIR STATION, YUMA, Ariz.(Dec. 20, 2007) -- A first-class physical fitness test score (PFT) won't excuse Marines with extra body fat any more, the Corps' commandant recently directed in a letter outlining big changes to training and personal appearance rules going into effect by June 2008.

    Additionally, Gen. James T. Conway announced the creation of a combat-related fitness test and a military appearance program in a Nov. 26 White Letter sent to all Marine commanders.

    "Our nation has high expectations of her Marines … Accordingly, our high standards of professional and personal performance, to include our physical fitness and military appearance, must be maintained and adhered to by every Marine," wrote Conway.

    Currently, Marines can be overweight as long as they have a body fat index no higher than 22 percent for males and 30 percent for females and earn a first class score on their physical fitness test.

    Male Marines who don't achieve a first-class PFT must not exceed 18 percent, while females must not exceed 26 percent.

    According to the letter, the new body fat standards will vary depending on a Marine's age.

    The new standards are: 18 percent for male Marines and 26 percent for females 17-26 years old; 19 percent and 27 percent for Marines 27-30 years old; 20 and 28 percent between ages 40-45; and 21 and 29 percent for Marines over the age of 46.

    In Headquarters and Headquarters Squadron here, for example, 34 of the unit's more than 500 Marines -- 7 percent -- would now be considered overweight despite high PFT scores, said Staff Sgt. Gerald Collins, squadron training chief.

    Finally, Conway wrote that war-zone waivers for BCP will be discontinued.

    "Combat experience in Iraq and Afghanistan has revealed the requirement to develop a combat fitness program and evaluation that will better measure the functional elements of combat fitness," Conway wrote.

    The combat fitness test will augment the PFT and consist of events that replicate the physical demands of combat.

    "The CFT will be a scored event that will influence promotion, retention and assignment," Conway said.

    The exact events are in development, but two Iraq veterans here, said there are a few things they would add to the test.

    Marines should run in sand with a full combat load on, including body armor, ammunition and a weapon, said Cpl. Ramiro Montemayor, who recently returned from Iraq with Marine Wing Support Squadron 371 in October.

    "Just walking in the sand wears you out," said Montemayor, who has a first-class PFT.

    Cpl. Juan Ramirez, who has deployed three times in support of the Global War on Terrorism, said carrying or dragging a casualty, with both Marines in full combat gear, would be a good test.

    Even the Corps' top enlisted man agrees.

    "Have you ever seen a Marine carry another Marine in combat wearing running shoes and green 'silkies'? The PFT will not go away; this will just be in addition," said Sgt. Maj. Carlton Kent, sergeant major of the Marine Corps.

    Lastly, the commandant's proposed appearance program will give commanders the power to do something about leathernecks who look like Marines on paper but not in uniform. It will give Marines the assistance and guidance they need "to improve their appearance, lifestyle habits and overall wellness," said Conway.

    Even though most specifics aren't hashed out, the commandant expects Marines to be ready to comply with the standards when they go into effect in June.

    "The time is now to take action," said Conway.

    Makes Sense To Me!:)
    DonaldN
    Semper Fi
  2. Bertf

    Bertf New Member

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    Al I know is that when I was in the Army if I went to 181 pounds I was in trouble. That was my weight limit. I exercised religiously and kept myself at about 175 pounds. However, when the bullets started flying during Desert Storm they were calling up Reservists and National Guard, and some of them weighed over 300 pounds. This stuff is nice in peace time, but when the bullets fly, the scale generally goes out the window.

    Ditto the body fat. If you can do the job, that is just plain silly. Read Schwarzkopf's autobiography. He was always big and had the nickname of "the Bear." When they busted his chops about his weight he brought in a big photo of the Washington Redskins offensive line to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. "Every man in this picture exceeds the body fat measurement" he told them, you want to tell them they can't do the job?

    There are too many officers with too much time on their hands worrying about how you look in uniform. They have a PT test to detrmine if you are fit. If you pass it you should be left alone.

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